So, you know, I'm - I would love to do it. GROSS: Because she has gaydar and no one in the town does (laughter). GROSS: Cinco Paul wrote all the songs for the satirical musical series "Schmigadoon!" And it almost cost me my brother. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. and also a terrific revival of "How To Succeed In Business," a Sondheim tribute. I don't know exactly where you live. You know, we were getting ready for one of those - I think they were two "Update" specials because it was an election year. I mean, "Corn Puddin'" came out of - initially, I was thinking, you know, what is the song that is most going to annoy Keegan's character? GROSS: Had you been vaccinated when you shot the series? It went to dress and not to air. NBC. I know from your new memoir that when "Saturday Night Live" did some episodes with everybody at home, that you were - you didn't want to participate at first, and you didn't do one or two of the shows because you just didn't feel ready to perform, I mean, because you really were in a serious state of depression and anxiety. And, you know, she talks about, like, other men are really harsh and - but he's gentle, you know, like a lacy valentine. GROSS: You're nominated for an Emmy, second year in a row. We'll hear two interviews related to the series. Just like the idea, you know, that it's like, you can have so much passion and feelings about these things that you don't really understand and haven't given much thought to and using them to sort of put down other people. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) So what? He also co-wrote the animated films "Despicable Me," "The Secret Life Of Pets," and "Horton Hears A Who.". Good. Let's start with "Schmigadoon!," which is filled with references to classic musicals, like "Oklahoma!," "Carousel," "The Music Man," "The Sound of Music" and, of course, "Brigadoon." STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) And I'm sorry. If you're like me, you've never watched the show, and you didn't know her name until now. It was only really one episode that I missed and I really wanted to be there. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (Singing, as characters) My guys loves corn puddin'. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #4: (As character, singing) Who wants corn puddin'? UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. And so we play with that trope as well. . . I'm sorry. GROSS: How did you come up with the idea of a musical about people trapped in a musical set in the early 20th century? And I think you're probably not wrong. And so I want to play that scene 'cause it'll give a sense of how people just kind of break out into song around you and how you sometimes just chime right in. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. I'm sorry. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Come on, could be fun. We'll start with Cecily Strong. Talk about the process of writing that. And then they kind of looked - they made, like, a show of it and looked in every pocket but that pocket and then said, OK, you're good to go. STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) Can't do it, pal. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. Cecily Legler Strong (born February 8, 1984)[2][3] is an American actress and comedian who has been a cast member of Saturday Night Live . If you're looking for things to listen to over the holiday weekend, check out our podcast. - the loving satire of '40s and early 1950s musicals. I've been slightly hypoglycemic since I was a kid, so I have to make sure I eat in the morning and get my sugar. He co-created, co-wrote and wrote all the songs for the series "Schmigadoon! She's nominated for an Emmy for her work on "Saturday Night Live." Paul will be the showrunner and Daurio is a consulting producer. PAUL: Yeah, that was part of the curriculum somehow. STRONG: You know, we definitely loved the exclamations, you know, saving those for the - what? GROSS: My interview with Cecily Strong was recorded in August. - about a couple who find themselves trapped in a small town from the early 1900s where life is a musical. JOST: (As himself) You don't have to shout, you know. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. So I dropped out. GROSS: What are some of the movies and some of the cartoons that you grew up with? So - but I definitely feel more anxious again. You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. And it's just, oh, a song just about food. And I think they knew that about me. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Come on. Cecily Strong "Still Thinking" About Return to 'SNL' as Lorne Michaels Shares Hopes "She'll Come Back" The 'Saturday Night Live' veteran, who has a new memoir out on Aug. 10, says . And, actually, I flew out of the chair the first time because, you know, I hadn't done much physical comedy on the show at all. You put the bowl in your belly 'cause it's good for the soul. A leprechaun has explained to the couple - in song - that they can't leave Schmigadoon until they find true love, which means the depth of their love is about to be tested. And new flash, Michael - 40% of children are just their legs. I saw "Guys And Dolls." And so that's what "Corn Puddin'" is. We'll be right back. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. Otherwise, it's hard to get an impression on the show. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I didn't say that. People don't just burst into song in real life," complains Josh ( Keegan-Michael Key) to girlfriend Melissa ( Cecily Strong) early in the new . How did it affect your sense of self to be arrested and to be expelled and to think, maybe, you wouldn't even graduate high school? And I started, you know - I would - I had to tell my mom because there was a couple of nights - I shared a car with my brother at this time. Strong said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, as a child she often was able to attend Broadway shows and sometimes go back stage to meet their casts. (SOUNDBITE OF GEORGE SHEARING'S "THINKING OF YOU"). So you're back on Fox. Outside of SNL, Cecily Strong hasn't really established an especially large presence in Hollywood. GROSS: One of the things in some musicals is - the love affairs in some musicals, I think, would be considered pretty age-inappropriate now, like, for example, "The Sound Of Music," where, like, she's a young nun who's just left the convent. I mean, he did a couple attempts here and there. He co-wrote, co-created and wrote all the songs for the satire of musicals called "Schmigadoon!" So I don't know what you do with that. But they both soon realize they're trapped in Schmigadoon, where life is a musical. So I really was like, come on, everybody. And so that's partly why I just wasn't even there. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #1: (As character, singing) You can't plow a field without hitting some stone. See if you can recognize what inspired this song. GROSS: OK, let me reintroduce you here, and then we'll talk some more. Cecily Strong is an American actress and comedian who is best known for being a cast member of Saturday Night Live from 2012 to 2022. . We all know that so many performers on Broadway historically have been gay, and it's only in recent years that they've been able to be out. This past summer, Strong published a memoir called "This Will All Be Over Soon." You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. And she recommends the corn puddin'. And I think that the worst example is "Shipoopi" from "Music Man," which is - it brings everything to a grinding halt, and then this Marcellus character is just singing this nonsense song that has nothing to do with anything. And we wrote a sketch, actually, that didn't make it onto the show. JOST: That's great. We'll talk more after a break. KEEGAN-MICHAEL KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I mean KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Look, this whole thing is insane. I appreciate it. You know, I really wanted them - like, oh, that could genuinely have been a song sung in an undiscovered Rodgers and Hammerstein musical. Cecily Strong's character loves musicals and is initially charmed. Andrew Singer executive produces with Lorne Michaels on behalf of Broadway Video. We were in his office, and he was like, have you seen this lady? And is it hard for you to keep a straight face when he's having trouble keeping a straight face? So I've gotten to see a lot of his shows in New York. She Knows Broadway Well. Yeah, I got handcuffed and brought to a cop car and taken to the station. Mama's got one volume, and it's three chardonnays deep at a crowded party. You were 15. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) And then he gives her a smack. It's a journal of her first year of the pandemic, dealing with anxiety and depression. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) First, she said something bad to get his gander. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #7: (As character, singing) Who wants corn puddin'? That's outrageous. Cecily Strong (actress) social media, news and video. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. GROSS: A turning point in your young life (laughter) was in 1999 when you were a sophomore in high school. Or I'll go to my garage. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. I can hear you. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #3: (As character, singing) You can't eat a fish without getting some bones. I saw "Guys And Dolls." STRONG: No, it actually - I think it was probably Bryan Tucker, who I write with, and I wound up writing a lot of my "Update" characters with them, or sort of those - anybody that's a real - you know, I write Marjorie Taylor Greene with him, and we did Sidney Powell together this year, too. One of the really funny songs - the mayor, who's played by Alan Cumming, is secretly gay, and it's a secret he's never disclosed to anybody. GROSS: Oh, that's nice of you to say. - 'cause everyone in it seems to be enjoying being in it so much and I was enjoying watching it so much - and the contrast between that and the depression and anxiety you describe in your memoir. This is FRESH AIR. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. And it wasn't easy to do this job this year. STRONG: You know, luckily, I have producers there and and Lorne, too, and I feel very taken care of by the show. CHE: (As himself) Yeah. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free! Thank you so much for creating this series. Barry Sonnenfeld directs and executive produces. You not only - because you were expelled, you not only weren't allowed to attend the ceremony; you weren't allowed within a three-block radius of where the ceremony was, and you were threatened with arrest if you overstepped that boundary. And then they went, oh, wait a minute; there's one more pocket. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. And I'm - that's according to doctors, Michael Che. The men are dressed like they're in old-fashioned barbershop quartets. And I think it's wrong to throw those kids out. Thanks for finally letting a woman on late night TV. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) And I'm sorry - if I could play devil's advocate for just a second, I think we all know the real reason Julian Assange is in jail, and that's 'cause she's a woman. Cecily Legler Strong (born February 8, 1984) is an American actress, comedian, producer, author, and singer. Being a regular member of The Second City and iO Chicago. I did, like, a video for kids - for schools to show about kids with parents with drug and alcohol problems. She grew up visiting him backstage . He's a hard man to know, it seems - different. And it's like, this is still when New York City is really the epicenter, and our show is so about New York City. GROSS: Would you describe that experience? And in many ways, that was Ken. You know, there were a lot of tears on-set - happy tears - just so much love and so much joy and such - we were all just so honored to be there, and it felt like we got to share this magical thing. STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) And Colin, I just want to take this opportunity to say hi to my super fans out there. So, I mean, I assume it'll have to be soon. GROSS: So let's hear a clip of you doing Jeanine Pirro. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #4: (As character, singing) Who wants corn puddin'? So we did her on "Update.". You know, my grandmother would buy me musicals on VHS. The star appeared on The . He also co-wrote the animated films "Despicable Me," "The Secret Life Of Pets," "Horton Hears A Who!" MICHAEL CHE: (As himself) With the election only two weeks away, both candidates are trying to get a final message out there to their supporters. ", a satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s. Keegan-Michael Key's character hates musicals and is desperate to leave. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Schmigadoon, where the Sun shines bright from July to June and the air's as sweet as a macaroon, Schmigadoon - Schmigadoon, where it's warm and safe as a new cocoon and our hearts all glow like a harvest moon, Schmigadoon - Schmigadoon, where the men are men and the cows are cows and the farmers smile as we push their plows. GROSS: Oh, you wrote the song? STRONG: Oh, definitely. Let's start with "Schmigadoon!," which is filled with references to classic musicals, like "Oklahoma!," "Carousel," "The Music Man," "The Sound Of Music" and, of course, "Brigadoon." MICHAEL CHE: (As himself) With the election only two weeks away, both candidates are trying to get a final message out there to their supporters. HARADA: (As Florence, singing) Some men stumble home at dark, want dinner and dessert. Cecily Strong is an American actress, comedian, writer, and producer who has a net worth of $4 million. GROSS: I love the way mansplaining becomes, like, don't man-terrupt me. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Oh, no - no, no, no, no, no, no. And usually in those songs, that's like, he's wonderful. To be a 10 or 11-year-old kid obsessed with that sort of music was very odd, but I just - I loved it from an early age. STRONG: Thank you. GROSS: I love the way mansplaining becomes like, don't man-terrupt me (laughter). UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) It's just a lover's spat. I am just trying to figure out how to get out of here and get back to reality. GROSS: And he's not just a Broadway producer. We can't wait to make him watch it - with Cinco and Ken. I got the recipe. CHE: (As himself) So I assume you're not happy with the election. And she's vaccinated. Saturday Night Live cast member Cecily Strong will provide an exclusive preview of her new memoir, "This Will All Be Over . But also, really, in many ways, the mayor's story is at the heart of the show 'cause he is one of these characters that, back in the day, could only be queer coded, you know, and - but because we have modern characters in "Schmigadoon!" GROSS: Oh, yeah. I mean, the season starts - what? STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Come on. And then it ends in a very - you know, Ann does an amazing job with the song, and it ends in a really sweet spot - right? I'm really glad we came. I guess I knew it as a job. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I'm not saying anything. GROSS: And so is that one of the things you wanted to play with - also the idea that, like, love can totally transform a person into - you know, a kind of stern, rigid person into a much more loving, lovely person? A straight face Wish you Had n't Started a Conversation with at a crowded Party n't Started Conversation. Recognize what inspired this song the exclamations, you know, we definitely loved the exclamations, know! 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