She told him that her name was Michelle Jones and she didn't go by Watson. In "Spider-Man 2," Doc Ock did a similar move during the bank robbing scene. The final part of the Homecoming trilogy is full of fun nods, massive surprises, and unexpected treats. After you check out "No Way Home," join us as we break down theories, dissect what the end of the film means for the future of Spider-Man and the MCU, and discuss moments that left us puzzled (we're looking at you, Venom). Doctor Strange, who has managed to escape the mirror dimension by this point, struggles to stop the other universes colliding with the MCU. Singh: I think Favreau served his time in the MCU well. She's MJ. In the third movie, she's a singing waitress at The Jazz Room. Remember the human. As Ned explains to Doctor Strange, his grandma always thought he was magic, and sometimes his hands tingle. Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man Dies Most fans were definite that Maguire and Garfield would return as Spider-Men, so they also predicted what would happen to their characters. She's proof wellbeing has nothing to do with size, TikTok users say 'bold glamour' filter is 'terrifyingly realistic'. It's like the rules of time travel; the more you try to make sense of it, the more you make your brain hurt. He puts a white flower by the tombstone and runs into Happy, who doesn't remember him because of the spell cast by Doctor Strange. Tom Holland as Spider-Man in "Spider-Man: No Way Home." Warning: There are spoilers for "Spider-Man: No Way Home" throughout this article. In "NWH," they bring in Peter, Ned, MJ, and Aunt May for questioning after Peter's superhero identity is revealed. Singh: It almost felt like this movie was setting up Ned to be some sort of amalgamation of a sorcerer and Hobgoblin from the comics. the next movie on Marvels film slate. How Many Kang Variants Have We Seen in the MCU So Far? Acuna: Fury went so far as to interrupt Peter's vacation/school trip in "FFH." Well, this is where it gets really interesting. Thanks for contributing an answer to Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange! So yes, you could argue that Ned actually saved the day and the world with his newly found magic powers. Moments later, Otto sinks into the river, along with the tridium. The first may see the symbiote seek out Hollands Spider-Man and attach itself to him, which would finally give us the MCUs version of Spider-Mans black suit. Top editors give you the stories you want delivered right to your inbox each weekday. It's possible she or Aunt May could've shown him the ropes. Acuna: I'm not going to forget what happened in "Far From Home." After all, Maguire's wiser Spidey knows that seeking revenge ultimately won't make Peter feel any better about what happened. Forgive the "Star Wars" pun, but Ned's entry in "Homecoming" was with him holding an Emperor Palpatine Lego asking Peter to join him in building the Death Star. The Tagalog in Spider Man made me feel like I was part of some inside joke I love Filipino representationDecember 19, 2021. In "NWH," the villain forcefully grabs Spidey during the bridge fight. Singh: My guess is that the Mysterio believers are supporting Jameson's smear campaign against Spidey. After that, Happy or Pepper Potts has to recognize this guy and his associates. It's wild that Pepper wouldn't clean all of that up quickly in a press conference. Thats until Hollands Peter tells him to cast a spell thatll make everyone forget that hes Spider-Man. One particularly great moment is when she instructs Garfields Peter to crawl up on the ceiling and clean up the spider web in the corner of the room. Acuna: How hard is it to do a background check on Quentin Beck and discover that he was an old, disgruntled, and fired employee of Stark Industries? Both actors, In a sequence thatll break fans hearts, Aunt May dies during the films second act. MJ continues to fall backward, but Garfield's Peter sees the moment. But, to everyones shock, Green Goblin has planted a pumpkin bomb inside it. At one point in their fight, Peter grabs the glider and nearly impales Green Goblin, but Maguire's Spidey stops him. Ned and MJ are talking to Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker, MJ says: Aside from "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," you have a tons of projects featuring and even starring Filipinos like Dave Bautista, Hailee Steinfeld, Jo Koy, Darren Criss, Olivia Rodrigo, Manny Jacinto, Eugene Cordero, and Vanessa Hudgens. Really its just comedy and to make us laugh, because when Andrew came through the portal with the spiderman suit ned's grandma freaked out but when Tobey What are we waiting for? "The other day we watched the scene, my brother and I, and our jaws were on the floor.". How exactly was Aunt May related to Peter Parker? But it won't tell you that one of my best friends thought I was a "jalapeo" because he didn't know that Filipino was a nationality. In "NWH," he wears the accessory when he waits outside Happy's apartment building, hoping to get incriminating footage of Spider-Man. Singh: In "NWH," there's a moment early on in which MJ pointedly corrected the Department of Damage Control (DODC) agent who was interrogating her. They even ask him why he didnt tell them he was Spiderman and he says superheroes dont go around revealing their secret identities. Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for science fiction and fantasy enthusiasts. After a funny scene involving Garfields Peter Parker, MJ, Neds grandmother and Ned, the latter opens another portal to try and find Hollands Peter and winds up finding another Spider-Man and this time its Tobey Maguires version. PETER (GARFIELD): Yeah. As a Fil-Am who's been obsessed with Spidey since I was a little kid, I can't even express how moved I was at that moment. Press J to jump to the feed. A sign taped on the wall behind it says, The animated 2018 movie "Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse" centered on Miles, voiced by Shameik Moore. "We're kind of the only ones he has left." The least he could do is back the kid up when he needs help the most. I think a lot of people havent picked up on the fact that they were both already on this earth for a bit, Ive seen some people think that Ned just blatantly opened a portal to their universes. 10. If we were to keep seeing Maguire and Garfield in more Marvel projects, I feel like it would somehow cheapen how significant their appearances in "NWH" were. So while Ned didnt become Hobgoblin in the MCU, his new powers feel reminiscent of the comics where Ned Leeds held the mantle. The look on his face when he puts MJ down and asks if she's OK made me want to burst into tears. Does that change how anything plays out in Maguire and Garfield's Spider-verses now? You can see the license plate when Doc Ock enters Peter's universe and begins fighting him, assuming he's the same Spidey from his universe. Like "Hello, person in the room"? And you use it for the gift of mankind.". Why was the nose gear of Concorde located so far aft? Neds grandma is the girl who sings the Spider-Man song in Tobeys movies. While it didnt last long, Ned was for a time part of the world of the Sorcerers Supreme, which were seeing play out on screen. It was reminiscent of a moment in Maguire's "Spider-Man," when he let a robber escape in an elevator and sassed a police officer by saying it's not his problem. Characters like this exist throughout film and television, but Ned might be the first one that's Filipino. That's when he first encounters Electro and Sandman. So, are they in the movie? In "Homecoming," MJ didn't even have detention, but she sat in the classroom anyway because, as she told Coach Wilson, she likes to "sketch people in crisis.". Who is funding J.J. Jameson's conspiracy site? (Honestly, this could be one of Hollywood's many myths and legends, but it sounds right, doesn't it?). Did they just drop that subplot or is that something that may be revisited in a fourth "Spider-Man" movie? Maguire and Garfields Spider-Men are as beloved as Hollands, and having the trio humorously interact and team up in the films finale is a joy to behold. Maybe there's a reason she doesn't want to associate herself with the "Watson.". Peter Parker's best friend then decides to test his powers and open a portal to see Peter Parker. MJ is the one who picks up the box and looks at it as she, Peter, and Ned explore the room. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Ackermann Function without Recursion or Stack, Partner is not responding when their writing is needed in European project application. If you look at my headshot here on the site, you can tell that I'm a husky Filipino guy. "NWH" doesn't address what Liz has been up to since "Homecoming," but it looks like the magazine cover has a quote from the character saying, "He's a liar," referring to Peter. Acuna: I really loved what this film did with Garfield's version of Spidey. This is your final warning: were about to cover the biggest spoilers in Spider-Man: No Way Home. "Spider-Man 4?" Youve been warned. This is a callback to a conversation the two characters had in "Spider-Man 2. It means the multiverse isnt going anywhere and, if we thought things were surreal now, just wait until Doctor Strange 2 arrives in theaters in May 2022. When we first met Freed on bail, he hires Coxs Murdock as his lawyer and, after the latter reviews his case, Murdock says that Peter has a case for plausible deniability. In "NWH," Holland's version of Peter becomes uncharacteristically dark when his fight with Green Goblin leads to the death of his Aunt May. Sorry. Why was Electro summoned by Dr. And when they and the two other Spider-Men go and find their Peter on that rooftop, Tobey Maguire's Peter clearly indicates that he knew about May's death, which suggests they all knew about it. "And he would do these really quick smash push-ins on the characters, which is something that Sam Raimi I suppose was quite famous for, so Jon definitely paid respect.". Because of their sharp suits and killer dance moves, they would attract many of the white women who came with the white studio executives. In an interview with CinemaBlend, he addressed his responsibility as an actor beyond just saying lines: "This is really funny because I feel like I didn't really feel [an impact] at first. Where we see that, how we see that, when we see that, remains to be seen. Coincidentally, those hat colors are the same ones used for the traditional Spidey suit. Thats some powerful magic, especially without any training. The biggest hole is Doc Ock and Sandman knowing Norman was Goblin. And it does sort of. This was honestly one of the most exciting parts of Spider-Man: No Way Home and we cant wait to see what they do next. neds lola speaking tagalog with no subs & me laughing in a packed theater, only one understanding, is the only filipino Representation i ever needed #SpiderManDecember 17, 2021. MJ learned Spider-Man was Peter Parker right before Doc Ock's death. At the least, I'd really love to see Garfield team up with Holland's Spidey again because he looked like the actor who was having the most fun on set. We also see Strange, Wanda and Chavez looking out onto the multiverse from behind a pressure-sealed steel door, which youd ordinarily find on a submarine or ship. To my knowledge, no other major Hollywood movies have normalized Filipinos and their native language of Tagalog like this before. But, surprisingly, a small piece of Brocks alien symbiote aka Venom is left behind on the bar as Brock disappears. This is a fitting parallel since the two characters will team up to tackle the multiverse next year in "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.". Word webslinger. Garfield spoke pretty candidly about his feelings on his films with The Guardian in November and how he felt they were guided by money rather than a character-driven story with heart. Acuna:"NWH" undid the deaths of Doc Ock, Norman Osborn, and Electro. Heres another great reaction: When Ned's lola scolded everyone in Tagalog, it suddenly wasn't Spiderman: No Way Home no no, it was Spiderman: Already Home for my Filipino ass. We've added a "Necessary cookies only" option to the cookie consent popup. But MCU Ned is actually far more influenced by Miles Morales best friend from the comics, Ganke Lee. However, you can see a glimpse of an Oscorp skyscraper (with the logo from Garfield's Spidey movies) in a trailer for the upcoming Marvel/Sony movie "Morbius. The only possible thing I can think of is. But one of the most delightful twists concerned Peters best bud, Ned Leeds (Jacob Batalon). With news that the villains are now free, Ned and MJ are desperate to find Peter. Excruciatingly, he has to leave her when she falls, too, as a SWAT team soon surround their apartment complex to arrest him. When Neds Lola spoke Tagalog in #SpiderMan pic.twitter.com/ERfWVBzHu3December 17, 2021. Since the symbiote is in Mexico and would likely need to latch onto someone there, I could see Flash winding up there on vacation with his parents and bringing it home to NYC. During the fight, Venom grabbed Harry's glider and leaped toward Spidey, intending to stab him. After Peter says that he has advanced tech that may be able to help, Norman says: "I can help you. If Holland sticks around as the webslinger for another movie, then, Spider-Man 4 could see a battle between the wallcrawler and another iconic foe. Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. After MJ and Ned introduce Hollands Peter to Maguire and Garfields iterations, the quintet concoct a plan to stop the villains. How do we know this? Heres how it works. While Jacob Batalon's Ned and Zendayas MJ are hanging back at Ned's place while Tom Hollands Spider-Man deals with the multiverse, they make a few massive startling discoveries. During the Symbiote Spider-Man: Alien Reality miniseries, Ned steals a book of magic from Doctor Strange. Am I missing something? As TechRadar's entertainment reporter, Tom covers all of the latest movies, TV shows, and streaming service news that you need to know about. A sign taped on the wall behind it says, "Iron Spider charging. Will there be a "Daredevil" reboot? Perhaps the funniest part is when Ned talks to Tobey Maguire's Peter. But before getting to the superhero part of their journey, there's a great moment I thought Venom was going to team up with the other five Spidey villains to finally showcase a "Sinister Six" group of Spidey villains on screen. In Raimi's "Spider-Man 2," Peter left his suit on top of a trash can in an alley after deciding that he wanted a life of his own and would abandon his duty as a neighborhood superhero. In case that sounds familiar, it's because Paul Giamatti portrayed Aleksei Sytsevich, who suited up in Rhino armor to fight Garfield's character at the end of "The Amazing Spider-Man 2.". It was a big relief as Ned is one of the purest characters in the MCU. Ned literally remarks its just some random guy as soon as he shows up. In "NWH" he claims he tried going home, but he found someone else there. 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This is my Headcanon- my friends too <3, Filipino here. Instead, he asks for her help in finding out more about the multiverse and it isnt long before things get really weird. I have so many questions. How does this spell work? But I'm going to give our guy the benefit of the doubt. Did I misread the situation? No Way Homes post-credits scene is actually a teaser trailer for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness i.e. I wonder if something was changed during the filmmaking process. In the film, Donald Glover's character, Aaron Davis (who becomes the villain known as Prowler in the comics), briefly interacts with Spidey and mentions a nephew that he has in the area. It only takes a minute to sign up. Peter has a tearful goodbye with the other Spider-Men, MJ and Ned. There are a ton of moments in "Spider-Man: No Way Home" that could cause someone to verbally express their excitement in the theater. NO SPAM! All theories obviously. Doctor Strange explains that Wong got the title on a "technicality," since he was blipped and disappeared for five years. NY 10036. But on a more personal note, Jacob Batalon in "Spider-Man: No Way Home" is the most seen I've ever felt in a movie theater. As Spider-Man and Aunt May try to stop the films multiple villains from escaping and wreaking havoc on New York, Aunt May is stabbed by Green Goblins glider. Is someone else about to play Parker in the "Venom" movies? Many fans expected No Way Home would serve as a proper conclusion to their arcs since both actors had planned sequels that never materialized. The pair are dragged into the events of the film by Doctor Stranges spell and are introduced to fans when Ned and MJ are attempting to find their Peter while using Stranges sling ring. Also, I cannot imagine the kind of reaction Peter and MJ shippers would have to that theory. You will receive a verification email shortly. As the villain cackles, Garfields Spider-Man throws Green Goblins cure to Hollands webslinger, who injects his adversary with the antidote, causing him to lose his powers and be defeated. What am I missing? Matt catches a brick that crashes through Peter and Aunt May's apartment, with the phrase "We beleive Mysterio" written in red ink.". Yeah he just says hello and she smiles they dont know each other. SoWhat Actually Constitutes Avengers Membership in the MCU? In "Homecoming," Peter removed a tracking chip from the inside lining of his suit while on a trip to DC. Same with Betty, which explains why the "NWH" marketing team decided to create a Daily Bugle TikTok account where Betty, their newest intern, shares videos and interviews with her peers. So after he comes through the portal, Ned's Lola recognises him and realizes that the nice guy who asked her some questions the other day was actually another Spider-Man. You know what Im talking about. While visiting Doctor Strange in the Sanctum Sanctorum, Ned mentions that his grandmother told him that magic runs in their family, and that sometimes he gets a Chances are, she believed the news that Spiderman is a killer. By clicking Accept all cookies, you agree Stack Exchange can store cookies on your device and disclose information in accordance with our Cookie Policy. Since then, fans, as well as Holland,have been rallying even more to see a live-action version of Miles in the MCU. Singh: I feel like that scene was open to interpretation. Later, when Ned and MJ are searching for Peter after hes defeated by Green Goblin (more on this later), Ned uses the sling ring to try and locate him. The most notable instance of Ned's Sling Ring proficiency coming in handy is when he and MJ want to find their Peter. Ned fools around with the Sling Ring while saying he wishes he could see his friend. Major Spider-Man: No Way Home spoilers follow. Singh: I find it really interesting that the world was so quick to turn their backs on a beloved, friendly neighborhood superhero and Avenger simply because a brand new character made such a bold claim. (I'm just hoping they tell us love is stronger than magic. After Ned had that little heart-to-heart with Maguire's Peter and learned that his best friend, Harry, became a villain and died, Ned vowed to never become a supervillain. However, the trio are outmatched by Electro, Sandman and Lizard. Acuna: Peter asked Strange to cast a spell that would make everyone forget him just to save the multiverse from breaking. Stack Exchange network consists of 181 Q&A communities including Stack Overflow, the largest, most trusted online community for developers to learn, share their knowledge, and build their careers. Ned is a loyal friend that has been by Peter's side since practically the beginning. Lizard points out that Max no longer has glasses, bad teeth, or a combover. While Stephen dismisses Ned at first, the young Site design / logo 2023 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under CC BY-SA. We also discuss the movies major cameos, character deaths, the films ending and post-credits scenes, and what it means for the MCUs future. You can see the billboard at the start of the movie when Peter swings away with MJ to avoid the media circus that erupts when everyone learns he's Spider-Man. Does that still happen? Press J to jump to the feed. NY 10036. He acknowledged her, but there was no implication they'd ever met. I do not remember specifically but could he have just been acknowledging her? Sign up to get breaking news, reviews, opinion, analysis and more, plus the hottest tech deals! Later, Maguire makes a mess and says, "Sorry, Lola." Learn more about Stack Overflow the company, and our products. Lets address the elephant in the room first. Luckily, we think that for now Ned is going to stay the pure and loving kid we know. The biggest surprise, though, is saved for last. During the Symbiote Spider-Man: Alien Reality miniseries, Ned steals a book of magic from Doctor Strange. ), Singh: Maybe she thinks Spider-Man gave it to her? But if youre ready to dig into those spoilers, then get Ned-y for some deep dive comics fun! His father, Vincent Maguire, was a cook and sometimes a construction worker. When his character said he felt lame compared to the other Spider-Men, I sensed that was Garfield speaking to the audience about the reception of his films when compared to the other two Spidey series, and my heart broke. He's been part of this universe since 2008's "Iron Man," so if he's ready to close this chapter, I'd be fine with that. They even get to play Filipino characters! 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